Subject: SRB Censored: 4-23-97: Boatright
From: FG@hotmail.com
Date: 1997/04/23
Message-ID: <5jl689$ami$1@bilbo.reference.com>
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Subject: Re: SRB Censored: 3-20-97
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:11:49 -0600
From: "Rick Boatright" <boatright@cjnetworks.com>
Organization: Topeka Business Computers
To: FG@hotmail.com
CC: srb-mods@bcca.org
Rick Boatright wrote:
>
> Oh Please!!!! Stalin killed millions. Dick D. returned a mail
> message. Hardly comparable. You remind me of the High School
> debators I judge from time to time who try to convince me that a
> change in the sentencing guidlines for juviniles in New York will
> lead to a nuclear war with China. Get some perspective Frederick.
You fail here to confront the tyranny of his act. Hyperbole on
my part? Yes. Does that justify denying myself and other Bahais
a hearing? No.... Your high school comparison is cute Mr.
Boatright, but I assure you I am not in high school nor playing
a trivial forensic game....
>
> Oh yeah, I presume you'll cross post this everywhere too. Here, I'll
> make it official:
Osborn posted the United Nations statement on Bahais everywhere.
Why should I not post my opinion in the same places? Are you and
he now in control elsewhere too? Or want to be? God save us....
>
> I am returning the below to you due to it being off charter, and it
> will not be posted to soc.religion.bahai
You are hiding behind your charter and using it again to
justify shameful suppression of opinions you don't want to
hear. It's precisely this type of thing that led me to state
on alt.religion.bahai in the day or two that Mr. Osborn's
suggestion of a "charter" were merely another attempt to
control the speech and the consciences of others. Your
intolerance and hypocrisy are blatant....
>
> Rick Boatright
> co-moderator and Jack Booted Thug
As they say, if the shoe fits, wear it....
> soc.religion.bahai
>
> > To: srb@bcca.org
> > From: FG <FG@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: SRB Censored: 3-20-97
> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 08:03:26 -0400
> > Organization: None
> > Reply-to: FG@hotmail.com
>
> > [Sure, no censorship at soc.religion.bahai.... Mr. Detweiler is only
> > doing his holy duty of "protecting" other Bahais from my "fractured
> > logic".... It seems to me that while destroying millions, Stalin
> > thought he was doing about the same thing....] --
> >
> > Subject: Re: Situation of Bahais in Iran (UN)
> > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 07:27:42 -0600 (MDT)
> > From: "Richard C. Detweiler" <rdetweil@primenet.com>
> > To: FG@hotmail.com
> > CC: srb-mods@bcca.org
> >
> >
> > Fred,
> >
> > Equating the systematic denial of basic human rights to a group of
> > people by a government simply bacause of their religious beliefs
> > with the practice of Baha'i review and your personal experience with
> > the moderators of this group is completely beyond the pale.
> >
> > You are not being denied access to work, your children are not being
> > denied an education, you are not being denied your inheritance, your
> > marriage is not being annulled, you are not being threatened with
> > imprisonment, your home is not being destroyed and you are not being
> > sentenced to death nor executed simply for your convictions.
> >
> > Posting the fractured logic below would only lead to a lot of pain
> > and rancor. It is pointlessly provocative. While browsing the
> > newsgroups, I noticed this note was crossposted to many newsgroups
> > so your point has been made. This is being returned to you unposted
> > to soc.religion.bahai.
> >
> > Dick Detweiler
> > co-moderator, soc.religion.bahai
> >
> >
> > > From news@reference.com Sun Apr 20 04:31:45 1997
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> > > To: soc-religion-bahai@moderators.uu.net
> > > Path: not-for-mail
> > > From: FG@hotmail.com
> > > Newsgroups: soc.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai
> > > Subject: Re: Situation of Bahais in Iran (UN)
> > > Date: 20 Apr 1997 11:31:08 GMT
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> > >
> > > [I tried to crosspost this to soc.religion.bahai a few days ago
> > > but I may have made a mistake in the header that prevented it from
> > > reaching you.]
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Situation of Baha'is in Iran (from report to the UN
> > > Commission on
> > > Human Rights, 11 Feb. 97)
> > > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:50:50 -0400
> > > From: FG <FG@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > As a Bahai, I fail to see why I should be so terribly concerned
> > > about oppression of Bahais in Iran, while I'm supposed to condone
> > > it here in the "evil, decadent" United States.... It has often
> > > seemed to me contradictory that Bahais use the free speech and
> > > human rights provided for in international instruments to curry
> > > favor from the government of the United States, and the United
> > > Nations, while depriving their own members those same rights in
> > > the West and elsewhere. It can't be both ways....
> > >
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