More Hate Threats & Intimidation/title> <meta name="classification" content="Religion"> <meta name="author" content="Bahais"> <style type="text/css">  </style> </head> <body leftmargin="100" rightmargin="100"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td> <table border="5" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="100%"> <h1 align="center"> <a title="Home" href="https://fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/">The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience</a></h1> </td> </tr> </table> </td></tr></table><table dir="ltr" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"> <h4> </h4> <p>More Hate Threats & Intimidation</p> <table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td> <pre>Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!e17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc Subject: Where is Fred Glaysher? Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 01:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Organization: https://groups.google.com Lines: 49 Message-ID: <cffa5e2d-8229-4d04-b55a-6450bc2eded7@e17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.222.96.87 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222849463 20582 127.0.0.1 (1 Oct 2008 08:24:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: e17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=121.222.96.87; posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080829 Firefox/2.0.0.17,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) https://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/76cee42d1b7a2676/f70f9d2d02d6f4ff It would appear the Haifan Bahaim establishment has done something to FG. I presented the following query on September 22nd (see link above), and one of the immediate responses from the most well known paid hack of the Haifan Bahai establishment was the following: -- Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai, alt.religion.bahai, soc.culture.iranian, talk.religion.misc From: PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Local: Tues, Sep 23 2008 7:10 am Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author On 22 Sep, 06:28, "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is a serious query: > Note if anything has happened to FG, the Haifan Bahaim > establishment will be held directly responsible. > Wahid Azal Yeah! We killed him, and buried him in a shallow grave! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAH! We're EVIL! (Sorry, just watched "Bedazzled" again the other day - impressed by Peter Cook's take on the Devil) Paul (btw - if you don't give in now, we'll send a computer virus that will kill your cat and turn your milk sour) -- Please be advised that anything that has happened to Fred Glaysher would be at the direct, criminal instigation of the Haifan Bahai establishment, which in the United States in headquartered in Wilmette, Illinois. This organization is capable of any/all criminal act(s), including murder and assassination of dissidents and political opponents. W </pre> <p>Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Viv Jacobson, lying IT committee bahaim bitch, and her lies, lies <br> and damn lies...<br> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:04:10 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 23<br> Message-ID: <a762d7f4-0b05-4e9a-be0e-f47897f38322@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <9f8b2d5a-0869-43e1-9d0f-a1a3f017fe26@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <br> <3d276d8e-a2a5-4655-8cad-e58d4edd9e58@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <br> <b03fd4aa-6dd9-4a82-9853-ba362a4c53ec@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <br> <882532ba-939c-4038-984e-c0145e1f9d38@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <br> <f4999bb0-d6c3-44dc-9f1a-87cd7bc7560d@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <br> <147739fe-43cd-4414-93c3-f974d9b23bc5@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <br> <a9cea091-fb2b-494d-81dd-f65eac7e1161@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <br> <c68a6f7f-769c-400a-b4b4-b2ad29dc9a66@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <br> <ffc7eb7b-9f7e-46c7-8e42-680ce4102752@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <br> <e7827152-d659-4300-99c8-41bf04610754@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222308250 12335 127.0.0.1 (25 Sep 2008 02:04:10 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:04:10 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.17) <br> Gecko/20080829 Firefox/2.0.0.17,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 25, 1:55 am, baha...@gmail.com wrote:<br> > Nima,<br> ><br> > im afraid that no one can honestly take you seriously.<br> <br> If no one didn't take me seriously, you wouldn't spend so much time<br> online responding to things I say, devote an entire sub-committee of<br> your Internet Committee just to me, and have this committee regularly<br> hack into my email accounts and that of my friends and family, and<br> generally follow me online and in real life. You people take me most<br> seriously, and your actions speak it louder than your empty words.<br> <br> Now you were saying regarding the whereabouts of FG<br> which Paul Hammond retorted with the following,<br> <br> "Yeah! We killed him, and buried him in a shallow grave!"<br> <br> In case anything has happened to Fred, I am sure the investigating<br> police would be most interested to know about Hammond's statement<br> here.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:08:23 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 11<br> Message-ID: <aeb1ce48-c9a5-4c91-bec7-dcfb8c4e0cf2@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.74.230.240<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222078103 25919 127.0.0.1 (22 Sep 2008 10:08:23 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:08:23 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=194.74.230.240; <br> posting-account=cK5dwwoAAAAtaq7rZoljp8li7bK4CHUD<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-Via: 1.0 BCHISA3<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET <br> CLR 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On 22 Sep, 06:28, "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote:<br> ><br> > Note if anything has happened to FG, the Haifan Bahaim<br> > establishment will be held directly responsible.<br> ><br> > Wahid Azal<br> <br> And here we were thinking you might actually have some human concern.<br> We should have known better.<br> <br> V.<br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!pit-transit.telstra.net!lon-in.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail<br> From: John MacLeod <macl...@beloved.com><br> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421)<br> MIME-Version: 1.0<br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com><br> In-Reply-To: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> Lines: 36<br> Message-ID: <FBKBk.38560$IK1.21359@news-server.bigpond.net.au><br> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:39:33 GMT<br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 124.177.45.3<br> X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au<br> X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1222079973 124.177.45.3 (Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:39:33 EST)<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:39:33 EST<br> Organization: BigPond Internet Services<br> <br> <br> <br> On his website https://fglaysher.com/reformbahai/update.htm there are <br> a couple of recently dated news snippets. That's if I read US dates <br> right. They're unsigned but it is his web-site. <br> I hope he's OK.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:47:55 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 17<br> Message-ID: <3d276d8e-a2a5-4655-8cad-e58d4edd9e58@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <9f8b2d5a-0869-43e1-9d0f-a1a3f017fe26@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222163276 5168 127.0.0.1 (23 Sep 2008 09:47:56 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:47:56 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) <br> Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 23, 7:10 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:<br> > On 22 Sep, 06:28, "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote:<br> ><br> > > This is a serious query:<br> ><br> > > Note if anything has happened to FG, the Haifan Bahaim<br> > > establishment will be held directly responsible.<br> ><br> > > Wahid Azal<br> ><br> > Yeah! We killed him, and buried him in a shallow grave!<br> <br> You would. You are thugs, criminals and genocidal maniacs. The people<br> you work for did that to David Kelly.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:48:23 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 12<br> Message-ID: <9d12d7ac-1e12-435e-abd9-022295534efb@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <9f8b2d5a-0869-43e1-9d0f-a1a3f017fe26@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <br> <346cc99b-1ae5-4fea-b578-1659e76cfef7@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222163303 5265 127.0.0.1 (23 Sep 2008 09:48:23 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:48:23 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) <br> Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> This is a serious query: if anyone has recently heard from or seen<br> FG please post here that you have. There is concern<br> growing about Fred's whereabouts. Fred has been missing for some time<br> now from the net and his absence on these boards is uncharacteristic.<br> Several people have been consistently emailing him without reply for a<br> few months now. Two other people have tried to snail mail old PO Box<br> addresses for some kind of reply by him. Nada!<br> <br> Note if anything has happened to FG, the Haifan Bahaim<br> establishment will be held directly responsible.<br> <br> Wahid Azal<br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:23:10 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 11<br> Message-ID: <471ac63a-09e9-4fe3-bd90-1b531ea68665@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <FBKBk.38560$IK1.21359@news-server.bigpond.net.au><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222165390 12023 127.0.0.1 (23 Sep 2008 10:23:10 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:23:10 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) <br> Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 22, 8:39 pm, John MacLeod <macl...@beloved.com> wrote:<br> > On his websitehttps://fglaysher.com/reformbahai/update.htmthere are<br> > a couple of recently dated news snippets. That's if I read US dates<br> > right. They're unsigned but it is his web-site.<br> > I hope he's OK.<br> <br> Me too. Fred's input is missed hereabouts. Note that there are other<br> people besides Fred involved in the RBM, so the announcements could be<br> by anyone.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:41:20 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 7<br> Message-ID: <882532ba-939c-4038-984e-c0145e1f9d38@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <9f8b2d5a-0869-43e1-9d0f-a1a3f017fe26@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <br> <3d276d8e-a2a5-4655-8cad-e58d4edd9e58@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <br> <b03fd4aa-6dd9-4a82-9853-ba362a4c53ec@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222166480 15426 127.0.0.1 (23 Sep 2008 10:41:20 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:41:20 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) <br> Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 23, 8:30 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<br> <br> > David Kelly was buried in a shallow grave?<br> <br> You are better positioned to answer that question than anyone here.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:34:26 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 18<br> Message-ID: <147739fe-43cd-4414-93c3-f974d9b23bc5@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <9f8b2d5a-0869-43e1-9d0f-a1a3f017fe26@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <br> <3d276d8e-a2a5-4655-8cad-e58d4edd9e58@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <br> <b03fd4aa-6dd9-4a82-9853-ba362a4c53ec@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <br> <882532ba-939c-4038-984e-c0145e1f9d38@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <br> <f4999bb0-d6c3-44dc-9f1a-87cd7bc7560d@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222216466 12623 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 00:34:26 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:34:26 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) <br> Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 23, 10:10 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<br> > On 23 Sep, 11:41, "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote:<br> ><br> > > On Sep 23, 8:30 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<br> ><br> > > > David Kelly was buried in a shallow grave?<br> ><br> > > You are better positioned to answer that question than anyone here.<br> ><br> > > W<br> ><br> > But you're the one that says he was.<br> <br> No, I wasn't you were did under your Paul Hammond alias. You brought<br> it up again under your Viv alias, and I responded that you are better<br> positioned to answer that question than anyone else. QED<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:35:24 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 9<br> Message-ID: <d28e9334-13d0-49c5-a431-28443f41e1b0@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <dY6dnbTmi9C9-UTVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222216524 12965 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 00:35:24 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:35:24 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) <br> Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 24, 7:48 am, "M=E1irse=E1il R=ED Laoise"<br> <grim_NOSPAMreaper_...@btinternet.com> wrote:<br> <br> > Mebbe Fannie Mae done him in<br> <br> No, if anyone has done Fred in, it would be the people who fill your<br> bank account for sitting behind a keyboard and posting to TRB.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:19:24 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 6<br> Message-ID: <3dd0918b-ebeb-4415-b7b7-f5222b4551f1@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <dY6dnbTmi9C9-UTVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com> <d28e9334-13d0-49c5-a431-28443f41e1b0@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222229964 23406 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 04:19:24 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:19:24 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) <br> Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> Very fishy how the IT committee is attempting to misdirect regarding<br> Fred's whereabouts. Something is definitely up, and their<br> responsibility in whatever it is, is now unassailable.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Viv Jacobson, lying IT committee bahaim bitch, and her lies, lies and <br> damn lies...<br> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:47:15 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 47<br> Message-ID: <c68a6f7f-769c-400a-b4b4-b2ad29dc9a66@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <9f8b2d5a-0869-43e1-9d0f-a1a3f017fe26@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <br> <3d276d8e-a2a5-4655-8cad-e58d4edd9e58@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <br> <b03fd4aa-6dd9-4a82-9853-ba362a4c53ec@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <br> <882532ba-939c-4038-984e-c0145e1f9d38@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <br> <f4999bb0-d6c3-44dc-9f1a-87cd7bc7560d@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <br> <147739fe-43cd-4414-93c3-f974d9b23bc5@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <br> <a9cea091-fb2b-494d-81dd-f65eac7e1161@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222249635 21456 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 09:47:15 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:47:15 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.17) <br> Gecko/20080829 Firefox/2.0.0.17,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 24, 5:47 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<br> <br> > You're the one who introduced David Kelly, you're the one who said<br> > Paul Hammond's employers had buried him in a shallow grave,<br> <br> Either you suffer from Alzheimer's disease, or the bahaim standards of<br> veracity keep descending farther and farther down the abyss of total<br> inversion of bullshit. To my inquiry about Fred Glaysher, your alter<br> ego Paul Hammond said:<br> <br> PH: Yeah! We killed him, and buried him in a shallow grave!<br> <br> To which I replied,<br> <br> WA: "You would. You are thugs, criminals and genocidal maniacs. The<br> people you work for did that to David Kelly."<br> <br> As demonstrated, the first suggestion of people being buried in<br> shallow graves was put forth by your alter ego Paul Hammond. You then<br> jumped in with your Viv Jacobson alias and retored:<br> <br> VJ: David Kelly was buried in a shallow grave?<br> <br> To which I replied,<br> <br> WA: You are better positioned to answer that question than anyone<br> here.<br> <br> Since you, under your alter ego, brought up the subject of burying<br> people in shallow graves, the onus is on you.<br> <br> <br> >you're the<br> > one who's now trying to wriggle out rather than just admit you made a<br> > silly mistake for the sake of a "clever" comment.<br> <br> I ain't trying to wiggle out of anything. You under the Paul Hammond<br> alias brought up "burying people in shallow graves" in the first place<br> and now, given the embarrassing situation you have yourself in, are<br> the only trying<br> <br> This above demonstrates who said what, and above all, demonstrates the<br> decrepit bahaim standards of truth, honesty and fair play = total<br> opportunism, lies and sleaze.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Viv Jacobson, lying IT committee bahaim bitch, and her lies, lies <br> and damn lies...<br> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:51:54 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 54<br> Message-ID: <ffc7eb7b-9f7e-46c7-8e42-680ce4102752@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <9f8b2d5a-0869-43e1-9d0f-a1a3f017fe26@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <br> <3d276d8e-a2a5-4655-8cad-e58d4edd9e58@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <br> <b03fd4aa-6dd9-4a82-9853-ba362a4c53ec@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <br> <882532ba-939c-4038-984e-c0145e1f9d38@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <br> <f4999bb0-d6c3-44dc-9f1a-87cd7bc7560d@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <br> <147739fe-43cd-4414-93c3-f974d9b23bc5@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <br> <a9cea091-fb2b-494d-81dd-f65eac7e1161@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <br> <c68a6f7f-769c-400a-b4b4-b2ad29dc9a66@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222249915 22221 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 09:51:55 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:51:55 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.17) <br> Gecko/20080829 Firefox/2.0.0.17,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> On Sep 24, 5:47 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<br> <br> > You're the one who introduced David Kelly, you're the one who said<br> > Paul Hammond's employers had buried him in a shallow grave,<br> <br> Either you suffer from Alzheimer's disease, or the bahaim standards of<br> veracity keep descending farther and farther down the abyss of total<br> inversion of bullshit. To my inquiry about Fred Glaysher, your alter<br> ego Paul Hammond said:<br> <br> PH: Yeah! We killed him, and buried him in a shallow grave!<br> <br> To which I replied,<br> <br> WA: "You would. You are thugs, criminals and genocidal maniacs. The<br> people you work for did that to David Kelly."<br> <br> As demonstrated, the first suggestion of people being buried in<br> shallow graves was put forth by your alter ego Paul Hammond. You then<br> jumped in with your Viv Jacobson alias and retored:<br> <br> VJ: David Kelly was buried in a shallow grave?<br> <br> To which I replied,<br> <br> WA: You are better positioned to answer that question than anyone<br> here.<br> <br> Since you, under your alter ego, brought up the subject of burying<br> people in shallow graves, the onus is on you.<br> <br> >you're the<br> > one who's now trying to wriggle out rather than just admit you made a<br> > silly mistake for the sake of a "clever" comment.<br> <br> I ain't trying to wiggle out of anything. You under the Paul Hammond<br> alias brought up "burying people in shallow graves" in the first<br> place,<br> and now, given the embarrassing situation you have yourself in, are<br> the one trying to wiggle out of the statement about "burying people in<br> shallow graves."<br> <br> This above demonstrates who said what, and above all, demonstrates the<br> decrepit bahaim standards of truth, honesty and fair play = total<br> opportunism, lies, misdirection and sleaze.<br> <br> Yet, this still does not explain the absence of Fred Glaysher and the<br> comment<br> about "burying people in shallow graves" by your alter ego Paul<br> Hammond. But<br> nice admission anyway by your Palu alias that you people are indeed<br> cold blooded killers.<br> <br> W<br> <br> <br> <br> Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,alt.religion.bahai,alt.religion.islam<br> Subject: Paul Hammond's answer regarding the whereabouts of Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:55:39 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 37<br> Message-ID: <0a8bd5c6-f5dd-4b0c-ba15-067c7b41010c@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222250140 23004 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 09:55:40 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:55:40 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; <br> posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.17) <br> Gecko/20080829 Firefox/2.0.0.17,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> Eric Stetson, Sep. 16 2003:<br> "First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is<br> interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,<br> that he is probably working for them."<br> <br> https://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/76cee42d1b7a2676/429d3599e8e0e5c4#429d3599e8e0e5c4<br> <br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai, alt.religion.bahai,<br> soc.culture.iranian, talk.religion.misc<br> From: PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk><br> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:10:34 -0700 (PDT)<br> Local: Tues, Sep 23 2008 7:10 am<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show<br> original | Report this message | Find messages by this author<br> On 22 Sep, 06:28, "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote:<br> <br> > This is a serious query:<br> <br> > Note if anything has happened to FG, the Haifan Bahaim<br> > establishment will be held directly responsible.<br> <br> > Wahid Azal<br> <br> Yeah! We killed him, and buried him in a shallow grave!<br> <br> MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAH!<br> <br> We're EVIL!<br> <br> (Sorry, just watched "Bedazzled" again the other day - impressed by<br> Peter Cook's take on the Devil)<br> <br> Paul<br> <br> (btw - if you don't give in now, we'll send a computer virus that will<br> kill your cat and turn your milk sour)<br> <br> <br> </p><p> </p> <pre>Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahidaza...@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Organization: https://groups.google.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3dd0918b-ebeb-4415-b7b7-f5222b4551f1@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <dY6dnbTmi9C9-UTVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com> <d28e9334-13d0-49c5-a431-28443f41e1b0@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.238.144.248 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222229964 23406 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 04:19:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=143.238.144.248; posting-account=nZjLhAoAAABCFfbHY7paKDb-XLERbXG0 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080702 Firefox/2.0.0.16,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Very fishy how the IT committee is attempting to misdirect regarding Fred's whereabouts. Something is definitely up, and their responsibility in whatever it is, is now unassailable. W </pre> <p><br> <br> Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail<br> From: PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk><br> Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,talk.religion.misc<br> Subject: Re: Fred Glaysher<br> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:25:46 -0700 (PDT)<br> Organization: https://groups.google.com<br> Lines: 12<br> Message-ID: <181cfea7-aca2-4048-8fc1-0919c0c895c1@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com><br> References: <c2292f73-48db-4160-a84c-8d58645c5c1b@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <br> <dY6dnbTmi9C9-UTVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com> <d28e9334-13d0-49c5-a431-28443f41e1b0@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <br> <3dd0918b-ebeb-4415-b7b7-f5222b4551f1@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com><br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.109.65.74<br> Mime-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222298747 14841 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 23:25:47 GMT)<br> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:25:47 +0000 (UTC)<br> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com<br> Injection-Info: m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.109.65.74; <br> posting-account=xYgNZAkAAAAX2Gy_ALiaitufV0ujYcJc<br> User-Agent: G2/1.0<br> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows <br> 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)<br> <br> <br> <br> Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:<br> <br> > Very fishy how the IT committee is attempting to misdirect regarding<br> > Fred's whereabouts. Something is definitely up, and their<br> > responsibility in whatever it is, is now unassailable.<br> ><br> > W<br> <br> Look, Nima - I already admitted that we killed him! What more could<br> you possibly want from us?<br> <br> <br> </p> <p> </p> <p> </td> </tr> </table> <hr> <h4><b><a href="index.html">Homepage</a></b></h4> <hr> <hr> </td></tr></table></body> </html>