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From: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
Subject: RESULT: talk.religion.bahai passes 218:63
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:41 PM
                                RESULT
         unmoderated group talk.religion.bahai passes 218:63
There were 218 YES votes and 63 NO votes, for a total of 281 valid
votes.  There were 6 abstentions and 8 invalid ballots.
For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.
A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
talk.religion.bahai	Discussion of the Baha'i Faith.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Dec 1998.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: FG <FG@hotmail.com>
Proponent: Ron House <house@usq.edu.au>
Proponent: Fran Baker <fran@crhc.uiuc.edu>
Proponent: Frank Baker <fbaker@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Proponent: John Walker <johnwalker@ozemail.com.au>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
RATIONALE: talk.religion.bahai
The newsgroup talk.religion.bahai is proposed to meet the need for an
open and unmoderated forum for discussion of the Baha'i Faith within
the structure of the Big 8 hierarchies.
The proponents intend that talk.religion.bahai will complement, rather
than supplant, the existing moderated group soc.religion.bahai, and
will provide those without access to alt.religion.bahai the
opportunity to participate.  It is noted that the alt.* hierarchy is
less well propagated than the talk.* hierarchy; this has meant that
many people who have voted YES on earlier proposals have been unable
to join discussions on alt.religion.bahai.
CHARTER: talk.religion.bahai
All topics or ideas relevant to the Baha'i faith -- its history,
teachings, theology, etc. -- would be appropriate areas for
discussion.
Talk.religion.bahai fills the need for a fully open and universally
accessible Internet forum about the Baha'i Faith.  Postings may take
any point of view with regard to the Baha'i Faith.  While this allows
criticism, it also fully opens the door for enquirers to see with
their own eyes and not through the eyes of their neighbors, asking
questions and reading replies from anyone who is interested in their
question.
Readers are asked to observe standard netiquette in their use of this
newsgroup.
Readers are asked to observe Baha'i standards of conduct and not to
start or prolong flamewars in the group, but to focus instead on
articles and threads written in more moderate terms.
The posting of articles not relevant to the Baha'i Faith is
prohibited.  Large ASCII graphics, large binaries, pornography, spam,
and any postings of a purely personal or commercial nature are
prohibited.  To facilitate viewing in news readers that are not
HTML-capable, HTML-formatted postings are strongly discouraged.
Cross-posting to irrelevant groups is also discouraged, and readers
are encouraged to redirect follow-ups to reduce excessive
cross-posting. Readers may also post articles that have been rejected
>from  soc.religion.bahai, so long as they conform to this charter.
END CHARTER.
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uk.religion.interfaith
uk.religion.misc
uk.religion.other-faiths

talk.religion.bahai Final Voter list
Voted YES
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garner#looksmart.com.au                                             Rena Garner
johnn#mpx.com.au                                                       John New
mclark#tpgi.com.au                                                 Martin Clark
house#usq.edu.au                                                      Ron House
jmara#cyllene.uwa.edu.au                                   Joel Jani Marangella
ghous#osr.nsw.gov.au                                                Gitie House
billbrwr#compusmart.ab.ca                                           Bill Brewer
sugimotm#cuug.ab.ca                                               Mike Sugimoto
crleech#freenet.carleton.ca                                      Colin R. Leech
shaheedi#nbnet.nb.ca                                             Afzal Shaheedi
trustone#bc.sympatico.ca                                    Akbarally Meherally
zarepour#mathstat.uottawa.ca                                  Mahmoud Zarepour.
narayan123#123india.com                                           Kanva Narayan
tierney#alloymail.com                                               Sal Tierney
hanv#angelfire.com                                                   Haq Hanvey
AAli929596#aol.com                                              Abdulnasser Ali
BRaynor781#aol.com
CRust60001#aol.com
FG#aol.com                                            FG
HANI72#aol.com                                                       Hani Ayyad
Jimo3#aol.com                                                      Jim Overmyer
JoySafari#aol.com                                             Marcella Hamilton
KevinEco#aol.com                                                   Kevin Haines
Macho786#aol.com                                                      Maaz Khan
Member1700#aol.com                                               Anthony A. Lee
Pglaysher#aol.com                                               

PParvin#aol.com
RayHanania#aol.com                                                     John Doe
RobertNik#aol.com                                               Robert S Nikjoo
SAMaso#aol.com                                                 J. Eddie Parent.
Shaksway#aol.com                                           jim Davis (shaksway)
Smastr#aol.com                                                      Sam Masters
amasri#dcn.att.com                                                Ala'a Elmasri
macleod#beloved.com                                                John MacLeod
alexdawson#bigfoot.com                                              Alex Dawson
kindervater#businessweekmail.com                              "Doc" Kindervater
tom4#canoemail.com                                              Thomas Buckland
sandraa#ccnmail.com                                                       S. A.
habuhant#CH2M.com                                           Haytham Abu-Hantash
markow#chickmail.com                                               Sassy Markow
Laudrigan#collegeclub.com                                         Bud Laudrigan
jgoldberg#condolawyers.com                                  Jeffrey A. Goldberg
kathleenm#cybertrails.com                                       McKibben Family
eridani#databasix.com                                                   Belinda
booda#datasync.com                                              Martin H. Booda
guymacon#deltanet.com                         guymacon#deltanet.com (Guy Macon)
vminai#spd.dsccc.com                                                Viqar Minai
carducci#easypost.com                                        Ladislaus Carducci
UNGARINO#ECardMail.Com                                         Eleanor Ungarino
john_brownston#educastmail.com                                   John Brownston
mercado959#email.com                                           Jennifer Mercado
edwardiii#england.com                                                Edward III
stomljen#enteract.com                                         Steve Tomljenovic
rothbrian#mail.entrepreneurmag.com                                   Brian Roth
alshawa#erols.com                                                  Amer Alshawa
shaukat#erols.com                                                Khalid Shaukat
tutstone#eudoramail.com                                        Marlene Tutstone
lopezaz#excite.com                                                  Jaime Lopez
umaraadil#excite.com
                 Umar Aadil Abdul Rahman                     McKloskey Abdullah
gkerley#execpc.com                                                Gillam Kerley
david#farrar.com                                                   David Farrar
lucie_vendome#fcmail.com                                          Lucie Vendome
wilsonj#flashemail.com                                              Jack Wilson
runchey467#fnmail.com                                              Jeff Runchey
dave#frackit.com                                                 Dave Ratcliffe
howie#giantsfan.com                                                  Ron Howard
kendrick64#GNWMail.com                                           Steve Kendrick
BHoyt#goplay.com                                                     Brian Hoyt
bjv#herbison.com                                                  B.J. Herbison
maher#home.com                                                    Maher Barakat
c.nunez#hotbot.com                                                  Cindy Nunez
burnettcj#hotmail.com                                       Clara Frade-Burnett
shakir_husain#hotmail.com                                         Shakir Husain
rdetweil#boi.hp.com                                              Dick Detweiler
rshane#us.ibm.com                                                 Randall Shane
goodlett#ignmail.com                                               Jim Goodlett
takriti#ihorizons.com                                           Mohamad Takriti
hopegartner#iname.com                                         Alice Hopegartner
matthew_cromer#iname.com                                         Matthew Cromer
ramirazodi#iname.com                                            Roohi Amirazodi
muntada#inix.com                                                         Rashid
jaed#jaedworks.com                                          Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
kwame#jahoopa.com                                                  Kwame Unanda
samorgan#java-man.com                                                   <FONT =
r_lee#jerusalemail.com                                                Lee Rusan
Aansari#dc.jones.com                                                   Aamir=20
o_elkordy#juno.com                                                Omar El Kordy
Christensen#kansascity.com                                      Len Christensen
henry42#mail.kmsp.com                                           Henry Wadsworth
todomanana#latino.com                                          Miguel Hernandez
David.Vessell#lpcorp.com                                       David L. Vessell
sponseller#lycosmail.com                                       David Sponseller
EdythBadalian#MailAndNews.com                                    Edyth Badalian
ogreen#mailcity.com                                                      Ogreen
jensen29#mailtag.com                                              Edward Jensen
hoffman#mailwire.com                                              Larry Hoffman
cipher#mindspring.com                                                    Cipher
unrein#cig.mot.com                                            W. Sanders-Unrein
billmc#email.msn.com                                                Bill McJohn
chesshazlett#email.msn.com                        " and be immediately followed
olav#viking.mv.com                                              Olav Nieuwejaar
hyle#my-dejanews.com                                           Sohayl Shambashi
marifok#my-dejanews.com                                            Arif Muljadi
rlittle33#my-dejanews.com                                        Robert  Little
sutherland55#netradiomail.com                                   Lisa Sutherland
mirele#newsguy.com                                              Deana M. Holmes
dmarasco#npsnet.com                                               David Marasco
cgruber#us.oracle.com                                   Christian Edward Gruber
jtidwell#animato.pn.com                                      Jenifer P. Tidwell
rlcarr#animato.pn.com                                             Rich Carreiro
ellenberg#popmail.com                                            Jane Ellenberg
E.Adams#pousa.com                                                  Eileen Adams
MRaflin#PREMIER-OIL.com                                         Muhammad Raflin
robertwarren#prontomail.com                                       Robert Warren
timken#prontomail.com                                               Ruth Timken
Safir_Ulhaque#raytheon.com                                        Safir Ulhaque
jasonmeller#recyclermail.com                                       Jason Meller
griffin#rednecks.com                                                Bud Griffin
chvatel#rotfl.com                                                 David Chvatel
maruyama#sacbeemail.com                                         Victor Maruyama
harold#shinsato.com                                             Harold Shinsato
imran#spsnet.com                                                 Imran A. Mufti
pan#syix.com                                                                Pan
s.humes#talk21.com                                                Shirley Humes
josephb#tezcat.com                                                Joe Bernstein
charlotte#thedorm.com                                           Charlotte  <BR>
lininger#theheadoffice.com                                 Lininger        <BR>
AlvartRiecker#unbounded.com                                      Alvart Riecker
smahmud#uop.com                                                   Shahid Mahmud
lingel#email.women.com                                               Sam Lingel
haldi#worldmailer.com                                             Kenneth Haldi
arman_taj#yahoo.com                                              Arman Tajarobi
galaxy001#yahoo.com                                                        j.s.
kruposki#yahoo.com                                             Andrew Krupowicz
nimans#yahoo.com                                                 Niman Shukairy
padidehjan#yahoo.com                                                 PadidehjAn
uhler668#yahoo.com                                                  Nancy Uhler
kakhtar#yours.com                                                 Khalid Akhtar
vote#kholdan.snafu.de                                               tobias erle
indratmoko.poerwanto#heim6.tu-clausthal.de                 Indratmoko Poerwanto
cstone#uclink4.berkeley.edu                                         Chris Stone
nmcnelly#bu.edu                                                  N.A.F. McNelly
hfung#CSUPomona.Edu                                                  Henry Fung
jdeutsch#osf1.gmu.edu                                           Jeffrey Deutsch
jdresner#fas.harvard.edu                                       Jonathan Dresner
jwalbrid#indiana.edu                                             John Walbridge
moslem#MIT.EDU                                                   Tarik Alatovic
osborndo#pilot.msu.edu                                          Donald Z Osborn
akhtars#ee.eng.ohio-state.edu                                      Siraj Akhtar
daas#bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu                                            Mutaz Daas
wajahat#bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu                                     Wajahat A Khan
slipstk#olemiss.edu                                                Gordon Smith
kopetsbj#cs.purdue.edu                                        Brett J. Kopetsky
DELETE_Massoud.Ajami#sdsu.edu                                     Massoud Ajami
fran#crhc.uiuc.edu                                             Frances R. Baker
fbaker#ncsa.uiuc.edu                                                Frank Baker
ashaikh#eecs.umich.edu                                             Anees Shaikh
nedsaleh#engin.umich.edu                                            Nedal Saleh
jrcole#umich.edu                                                      Juan Cole
nizam#umich.edu                                                     Nizam Arain
harinath#cs.umn.edu                                             Raja R Harinath
hougen#cs.umn.edu                                                   Dean Hougen
whitl005#tc.umn.edu                                         Jonathan R Whitling
dbowie#sas.upenn.edu                                                David Bowie
aabdalla#pollux.usc.edu                                         Ahmed Abd-Allah
endro#sys3.cs.usu.edu                                              Endro Kusumo
malo#pop3.utoledo.edu                                              Mohammed Alo
ASyamil#uoft02.utoledo.edu                                             John Doe
pjohnson#vsla.edu                                               K. Paul Johnson
aahmed#biology.biosci.wayne.edu                                    Aamina Ahmed
nali#med.wayne.edu                                                   Nasima Ali
rufinus#mbe.ece.wisc.edu                                              J Rufinus
Paul.S.Wolf#alum.wpi.edu                                           Paul S. Wolf
vsaarine#cs.Helsinki.FI                                           Vesa Saarinen
bmcewan#healthnet.mrc.gm                                            Bob McEwan.
nmas#otenet.gr                                               Nikos Mastrakoulis
khairol#tm.net.my                                           Khairol Azmi Yussof
rinerin#tm.net.my                                 shahrin shah bin abdul rahman
sl1pbx#ameritech.net                                                 Gene Truto
mbkafes#bestweb.net                                     &nbsp; Milissa Boyer=20
davetayl#concentric.net                                            David Taylor
islam662#CSSN.NET                                           Sabeel Ahmed</FONT>
booko#earthlink.net                                             Sharon Bouchard
oreocat#ETINTERNET.NET                                             Gary L. King
ljmoore#freespace.net                                                LarryMoore
sas#frontiernet.net                                                    Stuart S
baird#gate.net                                                   Baird Stafford
sinanju#gateway.net                                                 John Noland
lightspring#jps.net                                             Thomas Spellman
rreini#mediaone.net                                                 Roger Reini
peterry#megalink.net                                                   Peter=20
bmathieu#micron.net                                               Brent Mathieu
EPierce#ns.net                                                   Eric D. Pierce
jonboy#onlink.net                                                Trevor Tymchuk
r.marsou#pmail.net                                                Robert Marsou
RPittman#postmark.net                                           Richard Pittman
trhan#serv.net                                                        Teri Rhan
alhadid#SoftHome.net                                                Muhammad=20
m-t-head#surfari.net                                             Lloyd Madansky
ayloush#usa.net                                                  Hussam Ayloush
ceo4life#usa.net                                              Harry Clinkhammer
Toadis#usa.net                                          Andres Gutierrez de Cos
tommycarter#usa.net                                                Tommy Carter
emilyjackson#webtv.net                                            Emily Jackson
kaitlin_forrest#zensearch.net                                   Kaitlin Forrest
irina#rempt.xs4all.nl                                               Irina Rempt
forumbahai#es.co.nz                                              Steve Marshall
iio#iio.org                                          Islamic Information Office
irshad#irshad.org                                               Muhammad Irshad
peewee#scc.mi.org                                                  Jason Wright
barthelmes#studentcenter.org                                  Sophia Barthelmes
andrew#erlenstar.demon.co.uk                                      Andrew Gierth
neil#nkelley.demon.co.uk                                            neil kelley
Chambers#fetchmail.co.uk                                         Scott Chambers
SamtheMan#postmaster.co.uk                                            SamTHEMan
Voted NO
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mansouri#one.net.au                                             Shahab Mansouri
dany.steyaert#ping.be                                             Dany Steyaert
carol_bowie#mindlink.bc.ca                                          David Bowie
towfiq#401kforum.com                                                Mark Towfiq
AErfani#aol.com
Hlpflhanna#aol.com                                               Debbie Jenkins
Mac0000013#aol.com
Starlet001#aol.com                                        Katherine Mayerovitch
kimdv#best.com                                                     Kim DeVaughn
stainles#bga.com                                                   Dwight Brown
david.ritscher#bigfoot.com                                       David Ritscher
r.woodlock#bigfoot.com                                            Rachel Butson
lcs#zk3.dec.com                                                     Larry Smith
camm#enhanced.com                                                  Camm Maguire
caryenochr#enochsvision.com                Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R.)
wcol#erols.com                                                  William Collins
tom-hodges#geocities.com                                             Tom Hodges
aromatica45#hotmail.com                                       Victoria Williams
bearone1#hotmail.com                                             Gary Rosenbaum
fazlollahi#hotmail.com                                         Ahmad Fazlollahi
rachel_t#hotmail.com                                          Theresa McClendon
screamingb#hotmail.com                                        Screaming Banshee
swatchking#hotmail.com                                               Fred Tague
jjam#spica.hpl.hp.com                                                   Jim Jam
nightbrd#humboldt1.com                                            Douglas Myers
shohre#itis.com                                                Shohreh Mansouri
bruce.limber#juno.com                                           Bruce D. Limber
lpolk01#juno.com                                                   Linda L Polk
palmtop#mailtag.com                                             Bonnie Blanford
djull#mindspring.com                                                 David Jull
slr1bpz#mindspring.com                                             George McCoy
bfwkendo#netvigator.com                                            Brian Walker
chriseb#nortelnetworks.com                                       Chris Ebenezer
dc#panix.com                                                  David W. Crawford
persia#persia.com                                            Robert Moldenhauer
Sandy-Allan#dial.pipex.com                                          Sandy Allan
billh#samoatelco.com                                                 Bill Hyman
doug.obrien#the-spa.com                                            Doug O'Brien
manialip#wowmail.com                                                Kate Sparks
francis_uy#yahoo.com                                                       F Uy
Ekkehard.Uthke#gmx.de                                            Ekkehard Uthke
naddy#mips.rhein-neckar.de                                 Christian Weisgerber
cnelson#calpoly.edu                                                Craig Nelson
aull#ll.mit.edu                                                      Brian Aull
rick#bcm.tmc.edu                                              Richard H. Miller
kohli#mail.ameritel.net                                               Pat Kohli
helenko#bellsouth.net                                                Helen Oney
cybrmage#dave-world.net                                                Bud Polk
rogerb#foxinternet.net                                            Roger Borseth
ellis#ftel.net                                                       Rick Ellis
vpdura#hiwaay.net                                                      Vic Dura
Scarecro#ime.net                                                    Tim Griffin
jcornell#lightspeed.net                                         John B. Cornell
verbrugh#pionet.net                                             Albert Verbrugh
okoboji#prodigy.net                                                  Loriann=20
mehyar22#siol.net                                         Mehyar Badii-Azandahi
scooter#taranaki.ac.nz
NUFAITH#wcnet.org                                                   Dennis Rule
tr8770#bristol.ac.uk                                               Tom Richards
srm103#york.ac.uk                                               Simon Mawhinney
merlin#A470.demon.co.uk                                         Darren Wyn Rees
Graham#fragrant.demon.co.uk                                     Graham Sorenson
leili#Justice.Medford.MA.US                                       Leili Towfigh
Abstained
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sw.unit02.msn#cwix.com                                       Sue Klein Gennario
chris#kzim.com                                      Christopher Robin Zimmerman
tikal#mailcity.com                                        Samandar Roshan-Zamir
neilc#wallaby.stanford.edu                                         Neil Crellin
schuette#s.imap.itd.umich.edu                                     Wade Schuette
rick#helix.nih.gov                                                  Rick Troxel
Invalid ballots
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afshin.afrashteh#utoronto.ca                                   Afshin Afrashteh
    ! Disqualified
webmaster#muntada.com                                     Abdul-Rashid Abdullah
    ! Ineligible address
ALTAFH#aol.com
    ! No vote statement in message
MeCraigB#aol.com                                                     Craig Boyd
    ! No vote statement in message
LISTSERV#H-NET.MSU.EDU  L-Soft list server at H-Net - Humanities On-Line (1.8c)
    ! No vote statement in message
lbhollin#ust.hk                                               Richard Hollinger
    ! No vote statement in message
smeanver#tm.net.my                                                     smeanver
    ! No vote statement in message
mezmer#globalnet.co.uk                                               Bob/Zannie
    ! No vote statement in message
To restore the email addresses above, pipe the ack list through the
following command:
    sed -e 's/#/@/g'
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following command:
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