2nd RESULT: Talk.Religion.Bahai
Feb 22, 1998
Path:
spln!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sony
sjc!vixie!news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty)
Newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.religion.bahai,soc.culture.israel,soc.rights.human,tal
k.religion.misc
Subject: RESULT: talk.religion.bahai fails 109:65
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <888191514.9571@isc.org>
Supersedes: <886995638.1457@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: talk.religion.bahai
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:51:54 GMT
Lines: 306
Xref: spln news.announce.newgroups:2801 news.groups:118383
alt.religion.bahai:5119 soc.culture.israel:100798 soc.rights.human:35383
talk.religion.misc:165166
RESULT
unmoderated group
talk.religion.bahai fails 109:65
There were 109 YES votes and 65 NO votes, for a total of 174 valid
votes. There were 10 abstains and 3 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES
and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO
votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
group may not be voted on again for six months.
Please post any discussion of this RESULT to news.groups.
Newsgroups line:
talk.religion.bahaiDiscussion of the Baha'i Faith.
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Feb 1998.
A neutral, third-party volunteer conducted this vote. Direct
questions about the proposed group to the proponents.
Proponent: FG
Proponent: Chris Manvell
Proponent: Ron House
Mentor: Chris Stone
Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty
RATIONALE: talk.religion.bahai
Currently, the only newsgroup on the Big 8 heirarchies, which exists
specifically for discussion of the Baha'i Faith, is moderated. A need
exists for an unmoderated forum, and this proposed newsgroup would
meet that need.
Between January 17, 1997, the posting of the first proposed RFD, and
March 27, 1997, more than 759 messages were posted concerning
talk.religion.bahai, 11 messages per day for 70 days.
Between April 1, 1997 and September 27, 1997, over 2,863 messages have
been posted on alt.religion.bahai from people with highly varying
points of view on the Baha'i Faith, resulting in 16 messages per day
for 179 days, and 477 messages a month for six months.
Since www.dejanews.com does not pick up all postings, an additional
conservative 5 percent, roughly 150 messages, have probably been lost
from the archive. During this time period, approximately 513 different
individuals posted on over 1,200 threads.
These numbers may be verified by searching www.dejanews.com for
talk.religion.bahai and alt.religion.bahai for the relevant time
periods. Please note that despite the poor propagation of the alt.*
hierarchy the high rate of posting demonstrates significant interest,
justifying the forming of an unmoderated newsgroup on the Bahai Faith
on the talk.* hierarchy. It is only reasonable to conclude that the
easy accessibility of the talk.* hierarchy will lead to even higher
rates of posting by interested people.
The proponents intend that talk.religion.bahai will complement, rather
than supplant, the existing moderated group soc.religion.bahai, and
will provide those without access to alt.religion.bahai, on the less
well propagated alt.* hierarchy, the opportunity to participate,
especially since many people who voted YES on the first proposal were
unable to join in on alt.religion.bahai, their ISPs not carrying the
hierarchy. It is anticipated that alt.religion.bahai will evolve along
as its users see fit and will complement talk.religion.bahai as an
alternative unmoderated newsgroup.
CHARTER: talk.religion.bahai
All topics or ideas relevant to the Baha'i faith -- its history,
teachings, theology, etc. -- would be appropriate areas for
discussion.
Readers are asked to observe standard netiquette and voting procedure
in their use of this newsgroup and during its creation.
Readers are asked to observe Baha'i standards of conduct and not to
start or prolong flamewars in the group, but to focus instead on
articles and threads written in more moderate terms.
The posting of articles not specifically relevant to the Baha'i Faith
is strongly discouraged. Also discouraged are personal messages, large
ASCII graphics, binaries, special-format files, pornography, spam, and
any postings of a purely commercial nature.
Crossposting to irrelevant groups is also discouraged, and readers are
encouraged to redirect followups to reduce excessive crossposting.
Readers may also post articles that have been rejected from
soc.religion.bahai, so long as they conform to this charter.
As is true for other groups devoted to discussing a particular
religion, including soc.religion.bahai, the talk.religion.bahai
newsgroup is not an official organ of any institutional faith.
END CHARTER.
talk.religion.bahai Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
110576.764 [at] compuserve.com
Henri-Charles de Flhrier
aelyria [at] goodnet.com
Alma Engels
afshin.afrashteh [at] utoronto.ca
Afshin Afrashteh
alex [at] unicorn.us.com
Alex Matulich
an588 [at] freenet.carleton.ca
Catherine Woodgold
ann_mcginley [at] hotmail.com
Ann McGinley
aull [at] ll.mit.edu
Brian Aull
baird [at] gate.net
Baird Stafford
bill [at] srisoft.com
Bill W Smith Jr
bmathieu [at] micron.net
Brent Mathieu
bn872 [at] freenet.carleton.ca
Michael McKenny
booda [at] datasync.com
Martin H. Booda
bpurosky [at] visix.com
Bill Purosky
Carol_Bowie [at] mindlink.bc.ca
Carol Bowie
cdt [at] op.net
Chris Trumbore
Chris [at] breacais.demon.co.uk
Christopher John Manvell
chriseb [at] nortel.ca
Chris Ebenezer
cipher [at] mindspring.com
David A. Howard
ck508 [at] freenet.carleton.ca
Lionel Wagner
cstone [at] math.unm.edu
Chris Stone
curtis_whalen+usenet [at] geocities.com
Curtis (Jewell) Whalen
dan [at] remote.control.com
Dan L. Pierson
david [at] home.net.nz
David Farrar
dbowie [at] sas.upenn.edu
David Bowie
desiegel [at] aol.com
David E. Siegel
dputzolu [at] teleport.com
David M. Putzolu
ekako [at] northcoast.com
Kindrick Ownby
emma [at] csli.Stanford.EDU
Emma Pease
er_er_an [at] hotmail.com
J Vuh
fbaker [at] ncsa.uiuc.edu
Frank M. Baker
fed [at] millcomm.com
Frank Druktainis
FG [at] hotmail.com
FG
fgsoler [at] value.net
Frank G. Soler
forumbahai [at] es.co.nz
Steve Marshall
fran [at] crhc.uiuc.edu
Frances Baker
gaillard [at] panix.com
Ed Gaillard
gazissax [at] netcom.com
Lynn Diana Gazis
gglaser [at] minn.net
Ginger Glaser
ggw [at] wolves.durham.nc.us
Gregory G. Woodbury
hmiddlem [at] cyberus.ca
Harry T Middleman
hood [at] Eng.Sun.COM
Mark Hood
house [at] usq.edu.au
Ron House
IJF16 [at] student.canterbury.ac.nz
Isaac Freeman
irina [at]
rempt.xs4all.nl
Irina Rempt
J.K.A.Singh-Rathore [at] ping.be
J.K.A. Singh-Rathore
jaed [at] best.com
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
jake [at] netins.net
R. "Jake" Jakoubek
james.farrar [at] ic.ac.uk
James Farrar
jbh5 [at] cornell.edu
Jean B. Hunter
jdg [at] but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com
John David Galt
jeffd [at] goodnet.com
Jeffrey J. Davey
jeffford [at] cs.utexas.edu
Jeff Ford
jharnick [at] nornet.on.ca
John A. Harnick
jkrobert [at] students.wisc.edu.nolongpig
Jason Roberts
jmalina [at] wenet.net
Jo Ann Malina
jolomo [at] netcom.com
Joe Morris
jonathan [at] lionheart.net
Jonathan Padgett
JoySafari [at] aol.com
jtbell [at]
cs1.presby.edu
Jon Bell
karromde [at] nyx.net
Ken Arromdee
kebera [at] Cyblings.ON.CA
Krishna E. Bera
keillan [at] quest.cc.purdue.edu
Kelly G. Willis
kopetsbj [at] cs.purdue.edu
Brett J. Kopetsky
kuch [at] ms.uky.edu
John Allen Kuchenbrod
kyra [at] flash.net
Debra Davies Huffman
lightspring [at] jps.net
Thomas Spellman
maryam [at] netlink.com.au
Maryam Butson
Massoud.Ajami [at] sdsu.eduDELETE
Massoud Ajami
matt [at] mec.edu
Matt Bancroft
mcgregoa [at] Cognos.COM
Alayne McGregor
meflin [at] dimensional.com
James S. Lopeman
michael [at] unicorn-connection.co.uk
Michael Parry
mirele [at] super.zippo.com
Deana M. Holmes
mtgalvin [at] ouray.cudenver.edu
Michael-Teunis Galvin
mughal [at] alumni.caltech.edu
Asim Mughal
neil [at] nkelley.demon.co.uk
Neil Kelley
neilc [at] stanford.edu
Neilist Crellin
obfusa [at]
mack.rt66.com
Franklin D. Schlatter Group Orthodox
olav [at] viking.mv.com
Olav Nieuwejaar
[at] moa.net
philh [at]
vision25.demon.co.uk
Philip Hunt
PIERCEED [at] sswdserver.sswd.csus.edu
Eric David Pierce
pjh1 [at] leicester.ac.uk
Pete Humble
pjohnson [at] vsla.edu
K. Paul Johnson
poul [at] earthling.net.NOSPAM.PLEASE
Poul A. Costinsky
rdetweil [at] boi.hp.com
Dick Detweiler
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu
Richard Miller
RK-esperantisto [at] juno.com
Rick Koshko
roesingere [at] indy.tce.com
Eric G Roesinger
romanc [at] rpi.edu
Cesar C. Palerm
roxanamorgan11 [at] home.com
Roxana Morgan
rreini [at] wwnet.net
Roger Reini
rtower [at] yahoo.com
Ron Tower
sas [at] frontiernet.net
Stuart Schweid
simon [at] darkmere.gen.nz
Simon Lyall
slavitch [at] loran.com
Michael Slavitch
Tobias.Erle [at] GMX.net
Tobias Erle
todd [at] nutria.nrlssc.navy.mil
Todd Mullins
tommycarter [at] usa.net
Tommy Carter
tricia [at] glonet.co.nz
Tricia Hague-Blackford
Wayne_Sanders-Unrein_at_2-HTI-2VA [at] ccgate.hac.com Wayne
Sanders-Unrein
whateverman [at] erols.com
Jon Richt
wisanr [at] norwich.net
Dick Wisan
WTobyL [at] aol.com
Toby Lomax
wwfiv [at] ix.netcom.com
William W. Farley IV
xanthian [at] well.com
Kent Paul Dolan
znmeb [at] teleport.com
M. Edward Borasky
zutetflute [at] aol.com
Andree Maani
Voted No
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
abir [at] comtrol.com
Abir Majid
andrew.pemberton-pigott [at] ualberta.ca
Andrew Pemberton-Pigott
babboo [at] writeme.com
Peter Buchy
barneyk [at] ziplink.net
Michael "Barney" Kennedy
bobbymitchell [at] totacc.com
Bobby Mitchell
centiped [at]
grey.xs4all.nl
Roelf Renkema
d [at] idiom.com
d
David.Robinson [at] Eng.Sun.COM
David Robinson
djull [at] mindspring.com
David Jull
dwolff [at] world.std.com
David "Not a Bahai" Wolff
EdvardJ [at] simi.is
Edvard T. Jonsson
Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de
Ekkehard Uthke
fdbetts [at] mindspring.com
Dean Betts
forbes [at] cheerful.com
Forbes Benning
Gata [at] aol.com
Shirley Macias
globe99 [at] Mlink.NET
Derrick Jobidon
gpoirier [at] acca.nmsu.edu
G. Brent Poirier
Graham [at] fragrant.demon.co.uk
Graham Sorenson
hcwtcurtis [at] email.msn.com
Larry D. Curtis
hfung [at] lerami.lerctr.org
Hank Fung
hhouse [at] mailcity.com
Harry House
hymanfam [at] samoatelco.com
William M. Hyman
iskandar [at] acsu.buffalo.edu
Iskandar Hai
jasmine [at] fl.net.au
Jasmine Taylor
jjam [at] hplabsz.hpl.hp.com
Jim S. Jam
judd.rook [at] pnn.com
Judd A Rook
kimdv [at] best.com
Kim DeVaughn
krc1 [at] mail.enter.net
Phil Thomas
ksm8p [at] avery.med.virginia.edu
kavian milani
lcs [at]
zk3.dec.com
Larry Smith
LSEAMANS [at]
MU3.MILLERSV.EDU
Lynne Seamans
marcus9 [at] usa.net
Marcus Davidson
mehyar22 [at] siol.net
Mehyar Badii-Azandahi
mlcook [at] jerez.cca.rockwell.com
Michael Cook
mlocher [at] ibm.net
Maximilian Greer Locher
momen [at] northill.demon.co.uk
Moojan Momen
naddy [at] mips.rhein-neckar.de
Christian Weisgerber
nigel [at] nigelshomes.com
Nigel Austin-Weeks
nightbrd [at]
humboldt1.com
Douglas Myers
ongang [at] mail.indigo.ie
Ann O'Neill
pan [at] syix.com
Pan
patl [at] cag.lcs.mit.edu
Patrick J. LoPresti
persia [at] persia.com
Robert Moldenhauer
petcook [at] total.net
Peter Cook
pewatler [at] cyf-kr.edu.pl
Miguel Watler
ph289jk [at] prism.gatech.edu
Joseph Khoury
polzer [at] uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de
Andreas Polzer
red [at] rahul.net
Red
riazor [at] nutecnet.com.br
Irlandes Fernandes Gonzaga Junior
rmp [at] heehaw.com
Rafael Palmeiro
roger.borseth [at]
mci2000.com
Roger Borseth
rossdee [at] ramhb.co.nz
Ross Deeley
samoasys [at] samoatelco.com
Jane C. Hyman
shohre [at] itis.com
Shohre Mansouri
shrao [at] nyx.net
Shrisha Rao
stainles [at] bga.com
Dwight Brown
steiners [at] primenet.com
Jason Steiner
steve [at] Watt.COM
Steve Watt
stronguv [at] freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Donald Strong
Sunday122 [at] aol.com
Sunday Marie Witte
talishman [at] usa.net
T. Albert-Ishmael Anderson
tlawson [at] amug.org
Todd C. Lawson
todd.kutches [at] attws.com
Todd Kutches
wdmaddox [at] rice.edu
Bill Maddox
wpagel [at] wazoo.com
Karen L. Pagel
Abstained
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
af479 [at] rgfn.epcc.Edu
Samandar Roshan-Zamir
biow [at] ezmort.com
Christopher Biow
chris [at] kzim.com
Christopher Robin Zimmerman
guymacon [at] deltanet.com
Guy Macon
hkt [at] wwa.com
Henrietta Thomas
johnn [at] jolt.mpx.com.au
John New
kpascoe [at] ford.com
Kathy Pascoe
NEW_DAWN [at] compuserve.com
Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
rick [at] helix.nih.gov
Rick Troxel
rpascoe [at] freenet.npiec.on.ca
robert Pascoe
Votes in error
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
fpbbgre [at] gnenanxv.np.am
Scooter
! Invalid address
notarius [at] nym.alias.net
Notarius
! Anonymous remailer
tom-hodges [at] geocities.com
Tom Hodges
! No ballot
--
Rebecca Graham McQuitty
Homepage:
:
|